Trump = Hillary, freemasons win

There is a saying I heard a long time ago, each country deserves its leader... Cuba deserves the Castro brothers, Libya deserved Qaddafi, South Africa deserved Mandela and the United States deserves …More
There is a saying I heard a long time ago, each country deserves its leader... Cuba deserves the Castro brothers, Libya deserved Qaddafi, South Africa deserved Mandela and the United States deserves Obama.
My father is conservative and it is only logical that I lean for the Republicans, but they too sold their values to the highest bidder... the Gay agenda in this country is now the right and the normal way to go, is the popular thing to back and Republicans cheers.
Abortion, homosexuality and contraception is a "hot topic button", and going against those, is unpopular...
Both parties serve the same master. make no mistake, pleasing the world or in other words, being political correct, is what the bible describes as being friends of the world and by pleasing the world God is cast out, this is why God says that those who are friends of the world are His enemies.
"You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses …More
VOICEOFTHESHEEP
Nonsense... even St Paul didn't wait for those Jews to kill him so he fled in a basket, why he didn't stay and convert them? You admitted that Trump is a lesser evil because you said:
"Now who would you rather choose to enter your doors? Someone who would murder you or the other who will only wound you?"
I prefer NEITHER, I will get my family out from a window, If I can't then I'll accept martyrdom …More
Nonsense... even St Paul didn't wait for those Jews to kill him so he fled in a basket, why he didn't stay and convert them? You admitted that Trump is a lesser evil because you said:

"Now who would you rather choose to enter your doors? Someone who would murder you or the other who will only wound you?"

I prefer NEITHER, I will get my family out from a window, If I can't then I'll accept martyrdom and my blood will be in their hands.

I am pro life BUT I will not break God's commands because of a "little wound"

So... I have the fallacy? Despite you admitting the lesser evil is better by taking the little wound for a higher and righteous cause? You sound like the CIA when they formed the "pepes" in colombia trying to take out Pablo Escobar and then the CIA calling the pepes a necessary evil and boy did the pepes did a lot of evil and the CIA couldn't control them anymore.
Rafał_Ovile
VOICEOFTHESHEEP This is a formal fallacy with no middle term. Either candidate will force you to open doors and rule over you. Now who would you rather choose to enter your doors? Someone who would murder you or the other who will only wound you? Boycott is desertion and fleeing your house without your family. If you prayed to God and convince others there is a greater probability that the less …More
VOICEOFTHESHEEP This is a formal fallacy with no middle term. Either candidate will force you to open doors and rule over you. Now who would you rather choose to enter your doors? Someone who would murder you or the other who will only wound you? Boycott is desertion and fleeing your house without your family. If you prayed to God and convince others there is a greater probability that the less dangerous will convert and might even help you.
VOICEOFTHESHEEP
whatever you say rafal... come here and vote. I know I will not... I will not compromise my conscience, but come here and compromise all you want. 😊
Rafał_Ovile
VOICEOFTHESHEEP To come to the truth one should consider thoughts in accordance with reality and try to eliminate objective idealism - self impressions and presumptions. You didn't reference to your concept philosophy & theology therefore it is difficult to point out the error in your understanding of a boycott. Nevertheless, it is not true and unfair what you convey in the title and text, that …More
VOICEOFTHESHEEP To come to the truth one should consider thoughts in accordance with reality and try to eliminate objective idealism - self impressions and presumptions. You didn't reference to your concept philosophy & theology therefore it is difficult to point out the error in your understanding of a boycott. Nevertheless, it is not true and unfair what you convey in the title and text, that Trump = Hillary, because behind them is a different agenda. You aim to discourage Catholics bearing the future responsibility for Hillary's decisions that may result in evil Planned Parenthood continuous and increased funding and late term abortion. This is a logical consequence of Hillary's office confirmed by pro-lifers here. Wishing all the best for your country whose leadership will inevitably influence the whole world.
VOICEOFTHESHEEP
@Rafał_Ovile
Reality, that's a word used by the enemies of the Church everyday to push their agenda on us, a word used too much by salt and light tv (Fr Rosica's poison TV), now this is not the case with you Rafal, I now that you are a good Catholic, unfortunately not a good reader, again I've never said that Mr Trump is a freemason yet it wouldn't surprise me if he is one, but I never said that …More
@Rafał_Ovile

Reality, that's a word used by the enemies of the Church everyday to push their agenda on us, a word used too much by salt and light tv (Fr Rosica's poison TV), now this is not the case with you Rafal, I now that you are a good Catholic, unfortunately not a good reader, again I've never said that Mr Trump is a freemason yet it wouldn't surprise me if he is one, but I never said that in this article, yet you continue to push something I haven't said.

Despair about what? I don't care... you don't vote in this country, unfortunately I do and I choose not to, the beach is worth more for me than voting for a man or a woman who in the end will make freemasons happy even if they're not freemasons (which I doubt).

Do you really think that Freemasons are wearing satanic robes behind whoever is the president and putting a sword to their necks to execute their agenda? No, money and political obligations is what is required. George Soros is one of their own and he is backing Hillary with 25 million dollars, Hillary has 1 billion dollars in donations already, Soros is one of many.

Michael Cohen advised Trump, a zionist, who joined Trump in 2006 and backed Obama in 2008: what a nice coincidence; Steward Rahr is another illuminati backing Trump, a billionaire who is at the 183rd position as the richest man in America.

I'm 100% sure that Trump (who was a democrat), is being used to let democrats win, but perhaps this is despair too, maybe the Clintons will return the 100,000 dollars Trump contributed to them once...

Hillary did a crime and the FBI let her go, but if I'm the one who had those crimes I'm sure I would go to jail... it doesn't matter because whoever wins (Hillary is leading Trump by 8%), will do what the big boys behind the scenes wants.

Rafal my friend I will not vote for Trump, I will not vote for Clinton, I will not vote at all, because voting for one of the two is voting for what they stand for and I assure you that's not pleasing God in all His commandments, on the contrary, voting for them to me it's a sin and that's one of the things I wanted to say, I never said they were freemasons, unfortunately you read what you wanted to read.

the end, Blessings.
Rafał_Ovile
VOICEOFTHESHEEP Your despair places you out of touch with reality which you transpose on others to withdraw in despair by boycotting elections. A question to you is what philosophical concepts are you using to conform your thoughts with reality? Certainly you have not provided clear evidence of Trump's connection to freemasonry but your "masterpiece" tries to convey a Trump-freemasonry link. Even …More
VOICEOFTHESHEEP Your despair places you out of touch with reality which you transpose on others to withdraw in despair by boycotting elections. A question to you is what philosophical concepts are you using to conform your thoughts with reality? Certainly you have not provided clear evidence of Trump's connection to freemasonry but your "masterpiece" tries to convey a Trump-freemasonry link. Even anti-NWO infowars support Trump as they recognize he's not fully submerged in global political correctness imposed by freemasons. Moreover, you seem to await a sudden and abrupt revolution in your country as you have stated "only parusia would meet your expectations and bring about changes. Please remember that latin civilization was built on law which the Roman Empire based upon. I reckon you have maybe slightly entered into the Manichaeism taught concerning social views and sedevacantist position in theological views because you portray the world around you as all evil without any possibility of change. I have uploaded articles on prolife stand which proof that there is difference between candidates and surely those who will boycott and not vote for Trump will vote for dangerous leftist Hillary. It is logical.
VOICEOFTHESHEEP
I've never said he was a freemason Rafal_Ovile (but it wouldn't surprise me if he or Hillary are)...
What I did post was that Catholics will put one of the 2 there (IF there is an election - WWIII will let Obama to extent), regardless freemasons will benefit due to their wicked agenda is now the law everywhere, most Catholics will vote for the most toxic one (Hillary), most priests and Bishops will …More
I've never said he was a freemason Rafal_Ovile (but it wouldn't surprise me if he or Hillary are)...

What I did post was that Catholics will put one of the 2 there (IF there is an election - WWIII will let Obama to extent), regardless freemasons will benefit due to their wicked agenda is now the law everywhere, most Catholics will vote for the most toxic one (Hillary), most priests and Bishops will vote for her (lukewarmth priests/Bishops)...

Good Christians will vote for the lesser evil which is Trump... EVIL IS EVIL doesn't matter who, did the abortion agenda stopped with Bush? Nope...

Holy priests will not vote, I assure you that, why? Because the two are against God's commandments with what they are bringing, both will let the LGBT continue, both will not cancel abortion, Trump's vice president said that he will bring down Roe vs Wade, BUT the republicans had 2 terms with Bush and never did anything against it...

Listen, this country is not like Poland most Americans ARE in favor of contraception, abortion and LGBT and our Bishops (you know this) ARE in favor because they commit tons of omission or cheer for it with subtleness.

Let's face it... this country deserves Heavenly fire out of Divine Justice because everything here is backwards, all that was good is evil and all evil now is good, only a miracle can save us and that's Jesus return, but in the mean time, CATHOLICS WILL SIN VOTING FOR EVIL REGARDLESS IS A LESSER ONE OR A BIG ONE.

Blessings to you, all gloria and Poland who had to entertained the antipope.
aderito
What gets me upset is that Cardinals down to regular catholics will vote regardless if the polititians favor abortion or not
aderito
I agree
Rafał_Ovile
VOICEOFTHESHEEP What is your evidence for Trump being a freemason or that he's their candidate?
VOICEOFTHESHEEP
@Rafał_Ovile (lengthy post) Look man it is obvious that they're not the same, one is a man and the other a woman, hahaha.
This is exactly the problem with us Catholics, because one of the two candidates (Hillary/Trump) is good enough for one thing we believe in, like when most Latinos voted for Obama, as they thought, by doing so, it would help on immigration issues and rejected he was all about …More
@Rafał_Ovile (lengthy post) Look man it is obvious that they're not the same, one is a man and the other a woman, hahaha.

This is exactly the problem with us Catholics, because one of the two candidates (Hillary/Trump) is good enough for one thing we believe in, like when most Latinos voted for Obama, as they thought, by doing so, it would help on immigration issues and rejected he was all about killing babies among other things...

Freemasons will be happy with whomever get there, that's my point, while most Christians will compromise their conscience as Republicans ARE happy with the LGBT agenda while compromising on abortion issues like when Trump said "women should be held liable (legally) for abortion", then flip flopping with some insanity... Hillary is worst...

Now, will people compromise Jesus commands because they are prolifers and should look the other way on other issues and vote for the lesser evil? Not me and I can see someone voting for Trump and then regret it in the future, it is not a sin not to vote, but it is one if you see that Hillary is pro abortion and vote for her, it's a sin if Trump is all for the LGBT and vote for him, political correctness is a heresy and applies for all of us.

I tell you what... whoever wins: freemasons will be happy, that's what I'm saying and Catholics will vote big for the big evil and for the lesser evil, which it's a contradiction. 😇
Rafał_Ovile
If a is identical (=) with b, whatever is true of the one is true of the other, and either may be substituted for the other in any proposition without altering the truth or falsehood of that proposition. Now if George knew democratic abortion agenda and asked you what is on republican abortion agenda, from this premise you would have to say to George: that if we substitute Clinton for Trump because …More
If a is identical (=) with b, whatever is true of the one is true of the other, and either may be substituted for the other in any proposition without altering the truth or falsehood of that proposition. Now if George knew democratic abortion agenda and asked you what is on republican abortion agenda, from this premise you would have to say to George: that if we substitute Clinton for Trump because Clinton = Trump then republican agenda is identical to democratic. Of course in reality the agendas differentiate. So where does you error derive from? You have attached a wrong meaning to the concept similarity because it is not a complete duality and whatever is true for Clinton is not always true for Trump. Thereby you have reached the illogical conclusion that Clinton = Trump and they're identical in every respect.

Freedom is never given forever and Poles being aware have always striven to achieve it. A statue of Liberty is not a substitute for constant freedom in reality and the sum of all individual decisions brings a whole either closer or further away from the Truth and God. In Poland there were at least two Church documents issued concerning elections as a motivation for Catholics to personally enroll and vote. In primary round, we had one candidate in last presidential elections who seemed perfect fitted for Christendom and lost. Then in secondary round, were left with a choice between Catholics infected with the French revolutionary concept of false Church and state separation. Both have said that abortion compromise is sufficient and whilst abortion is contrary to their personal conscience hence as Presidnet cannot change the compromise in act of law to ban abortion in all cases. The "lesser evil" candidate has better qualities and agenda behind him and now rules our society bringing it closer to God's law. We all worked very hard during elections to undermine the most evil candidate with success. We have never deserted or became lukewarm.

Conservative Catholics in Poland are well aware that your choice is between 2 Protestants and difficult. However, Orban is also a protestant and proved to be a great leader. In fact, he acts "more Catholic" than many cafeteria Catholic leaders. In Hungary there is a national Rosary Crusade for the country well being, as well as in Poland. Both countries received an abundance of graces from God through Mary. Will you US Catholics be "hot" and fight by prayer and engagement or simply complain and withdraw through boycott? Pray for Trump who does not seem to be freemasonry's wildcard and is supported by anti-NWO activists. Lastly, parties' agenda behind the candidates sharing some similarities is different. Should not fall into despair but hope for the better of tomorrow and fight for Christendom through Mary. Blessings and wishes from Poland